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thoughtbombing
06-14-2008, 03:09 AM
Kurt Nimmo
June 9, 2008


If you want to know what kind of president Barack Obama will be, look no further than his sponsorship of the fingerprint registry bill now wending its way through the Senate. Obama apparently has no reservations when it comes to robbing Americans of their freedom. The corporate media does not believe Obama’s backing of this bill warrants mention, but the Heritage Foundation does:

Sens. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mel Martinez (R-Fla.) authored a bill (with 11 co-sponsors, including Sen. Barack Obama) that was incorporated into a housing bill passed by the Senate Banking Committee 19-2 before the Memorial Day recess — a bill that creates a national fingerprint registry.

According to a Martinez press release, the language merely “create[s] national licensing and oversight standards for residential mortgage originators.”

One of the standards, John Berlau of the Competitive Enterprise Institute says, may “require thousands of individuals working even tangentially in the mortgage and real estate industries — and not suspected of anything — to send their prints to the feds.”

This is a step in the wrong direction — at least for a nation that preserves freedom.

Democrats such as Dianne Feinstein — a member of the globalist Trilateral Commission and also a Bilderberg attendee — parade this bill as consumer protection when in fact it is nothing of the sort. In fact, it is rather odd Feinstein would characterize this bill as such when consumers and the public at large were not to allowed to discuss it. Declan McCullagh writes for CNet:

What’s a little odd is the lack of public discussion about this new fingerprint database. No mention of it appears in the official summary of the revised Senate bill. No fingerprint database requirement is in the House version of the legislation approved earlier this month. No copy of the revised Senate legislation is posted on the Library of Congress’ Thomas Web site, which would be the usual procedure.

As McCullagh notes, there is no indication what will happen with the fingerprints after real estate agents have submitted them to the FBI. But this really is a non-brainer — they will go into a sprawling government database along with all the other biometric data collected from citizens by the government.

If you want to know the government’s opinion on fingerprints, look no further than the comments of DHS honcho Michael Chertoff, who recently stated that “a fingerprint is hardly personal data because you leave it on glasses and silverware and articles all over the world, they’re like footprints. They’re not particularly private.” In other words, you don’t own your fingerprints — or DNA, for that matter — because you leave it around, thus there should be no expectation of privacy.




Obama agrees with this — and when, or if, he becomes president he will be no different than the current crop of underwear drawer snooping fascists spying on phone calls, reading email, and rifling through medical and credit records in the name of the “war on terror,” actually a war on the American people.

As Bilderberg researcher and journalist Jim Tucker told Alex Jones today, the elite are itching to impose their control grid on all of us. According to Tucker’s sources inside Bilderberg — with a solid track record — there was discussion of microchipping the public like so much cattle at the 2008 Bilderberg meeting this past week in Chantilly, Virginia. It will begin with RFID tags in your underwear — I kid you not — and soon enough progress to implantable microchips.

It now appears both Hillary and Obama secretly attended the Bilderberg meeting, thus we can assume both are all for the agenda to microchip the populace like dogs.

No doubt Obama and the elite believe it is “Change We Can Believe In.”

Tonic
06-14-2008, 09:59 AM
Kurt Nimmo
June 9, 2008



As Bilderberg researcher and journalist Jim Tucker told Alex Jones today, the elite are itching to impose their control grid on all of us. According to Tucker’s sources inside Bilderberg — with a solid track record — there was discussion of microchipping the public like so much cattle at the 2008 Bilderberg meeting this past week in Chantilly, Virginia. It will begin with RFID tags in your underwear — I kid you not — and soon enough progress to implantable microchips.

It now appears both Hillary and Obama secretly attended the Bilderberg meeting, thus we can assume both are all for the agenda to microchip the populace like dogs.

No doubt Obama and the elite believe it is “Change We Can Believe In.”

No surprises here... Get ready for a change you can really feel america, when its shoving a gun in your back and exercising its ridiculous statutory powers on you .. Of course its all for your safety :-x

J. Phoenix
06-14-2008, 11:35 AM
Yup, totally unbiased, well researched, and source cited article right there. No inflammatory statements, no empty rhetoric, or baseless accusations. Truly a stellar piece of journalism.

Tonic
06-14-2008, 11:57 AM
Yup, totally unbiased, well researched, and source cited article right there. No inflammatory statements, no empty rhetoric, or baseless accusations. Truly a stellar piece of journalism.

sensationalized or not, the fact remains these politicians are not your friends..

thoughtbombing
06-14-2008, 01:39 PM
Yup, totally unbiased, well researched, and source cited article right there. No inflammatory statements, no empty rhetoric, or baseless accusations. Truly a stellar piece of journalism.

Please disprove any statement within, and I'll gladly take it down.

Should your fingerprints, DNA, retinal scans, medical records, et al b subject to PUBLIC SCRUTINY or placed into a Federal Databass, with a control number like a fucking sheep to the slaughter?

Obama says yes. THE FUCKING END. Again, disprove it and I'll take it down.

P.S. OP ED pieces ARE journalism J.

mikemcgrath
06-14-2008, 02:28 PM
well they already have mine, so i dont care. ha.

Jennie
06-14-2008, 02:42 PM
They already have the fingerprints of a good portion of the US anyway, so I don't really see what the problem is.

They have mine on file as I work for the state and they do electronic fingerprint scans for background checks. A lot of jobs do this now.

Maybe I'm naive about the situation, but why are you so afraid of the government having your fingerprints???

thoughtbombing
06-14-2008, 03:16 PM
They already have the fingerprints of a good portion of the US anyway, so I don't really see what the problem is.

They have mine on file as I work for the state and they do electronic fingerprint scans for background checks. A lot of jobs do this now.

Maybe I'm naive about the situation, but why are you so afraid of the government having your fingerprints???

For the same reason that you are afraid of losing your right to choose. PRIVACY. You shouldn't be in a database for any reason, unless you have been convicted of a crime. If you are arrested and NOT convicted, they are legally obligated to erase that data from their banks. They currently DO NOT. That is illegal, as the Constitution is pretty clear that you cannot be denied the right to liberty without due process of law. Liberty includes your right to privacy.

Jennie, you're a pretty moderate person... would you like the FBI to come and wiretap you? What about illegally search your home, go through your underwear drawer, scare the shit out of you and your family?

C'mon Jennie, you didn't do anything wrong, right? Why, if you didn't do anything wrong, are they searching YOUR records... why are they searching YOUR home...?

The answer is because you are self-described as naive on the subject... because you'd let them. And when your neighbors see you being passive, they'll be passive. It's called a Psy-op, which I am sure you know something about. For the same reason that they showed that kid being Tasered, in a clear violation of his civil rights. Where was the media... where was the public?

He was annoying, so they were silent. It starts with people who are a nuisance, and once it takes hold, it becomes common place. Nobody will resist when we all go to re-education camps(which you may be employed by now, for all we know... you might not even know it yourself, because as far as you know, you're not in on it! It's called compartmentalization)

They've already built the camps under the guise of FEMA, so that "JUST IN CASE" there is an outbreak or they declare martial law in the event of a terror attack(I.E. MOSSAD ATTACKS US AGAIN WITH THE HELP OF BUSH, ET AL). For your own safety is the battle cry of tyrants and dictators throughout history. Don't worry Jews, this tattoo and Star of David are symbols of Hebrew Pride... why shouldn't we wear these scarlet letters? Why shouldn't we identify ourselves as Jews by our style of dress... where are you taking me... why are you seizing my property...

Obama is a fucking Co-Sponsor of that shit. I am biased, you bet your ass. I love my country, but I love my countrymen more than this piece of shit property that we float on. I'll be damned if I remain silent about it.

Why should we care that they take our fingerprints?

Because DNA is next... because Eugenics is next... because family planning is next... because death camps are next. IT ***CAN*** HAPPEN HERE! IT WILL HAPPEN HERE. IT ***IS*** HAPPENING HERE!

REAL ID, Biometric National ID Cards, Balkanization of our Nation...

This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA... THAT alone is enough reason for us to question ANY loss from freedom, for any reason, without a REAL trial.

Ask U.S. Citizen Jose Padilla how well this plan is working... ask him if I'm paranoid... oh wait, you can't... can we ASK HIS LAWYER?

HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE... get the picture? WHERE IS HE? WHAT IS HE CHARGED WITH... WHAT DID HE DO... HOW DOES THE NAME JOSE PADILLA = ISLAMIC EXTREMISM???

He was a test case. Nobody said anything, so you or I may be next... it doesn't have to make sense, because you won't stand up and do shit about it if your neighbor is being taken away in handcuffs... your neighbor that you know wouldn't break the speed limit... because you won't ask the police "what is he charged with? where are you taking him... how much is the bail... is there bail..."

Obama's name is on that bill... he supports financially a nation which was the proving ground for such techniques(Israel!) and won't rest until you and I are in a fucking camp.

P.S. Obama doesn't take PAC money, why is he giving speeches to AIPAC?
Or taking Money from MOVEON.ORG? Why is David Axelrod on his staff as a former paid lobbyist... Why does he employ a foreign policy advisor who CREATED AL QAEDA... LITERALLY, to defeat the U.S.S.R.?

Again... BIASED... YES! I love freedom. I fear loss of freedom more than I do dying in the process of defending it. Obama would take that freedom. Bring. It. On.

Jennie
06-14-2008, 03:26 PM
I view having my fingerprints on file and being wiretapped or having my home searched as VERY different things. The latter I have a problem with, the former not so much.

You have your opinions and I have mine.

thoughtbombing
06-14-2008, 03:39 PM
I view having my fingerprints on file and being wiretapped or having my home searched as VERY different things. The latter I have a problem with, the former not so much.

You have your opinions and I have mine.

They are the examples of the same problem, with one of them being less obviously pervasive. One leads to the other... the prints have been going on for years, but now there's going to be a law requiring it--why if it is legit, do we need to pass a new law saying it's ok... wasn't it ok to begin with?

If it was, why are they wasting your tax dollars on paper and to light the damn building so they can pass the bill at 2am? When congress does something good for you, you'll hear about it to no end... they do it in prime time and it's on the front page of every paper... if Congress isn't out beating your door down to talk about how awesome what they are doing is, be afraid.

Why do you think the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act was passed in the middle of the night, with no debate allowed? What about the authorization to illegally enforce UN Regulations and go into Iraq?

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If it's not in the congressional record, just like everything else is--you should be not only afraid, but angry. That is your government, not theirs. Why should we be subservient to our employees? My how the mighty have fallen.

Again... I'm not talking about them TAKING THE PRINTS to see if you are a criminal... obviously, that is solid. KEEPING THEM implies that you may one day do something criminal, and you haven't been convicted--that makes it illegal. Hence they need to pass a law to do it... with no debate... with no press conference... with no chance to at least WRITE THEM and tell them how we feel about it...

Jennie, just because YOU don't care about your privacy doesn't mean you aren't entitled to it, or that I'm not entitled to it. If you want to VOLUNTEER your information for this database, then by all means--just don't fucking FORCE me to do it. THIS IS AMERICA OR GERMANY?

Mage
06-15-2008, 08:30 AM
We're also forced to abide by certain laws. Like we are forced not to steal and not to murder. You can choose to do those things, but you'll go to jail. Just like you could choose not to register your fingerprint, and you'd go to jail. I don't see it as such a bad thing.

Not only that, but not being able to disprove anything in that article doesn't make it true. It just means that many of the statements in it are opinions made to sound like fact. For someone who is all about keeping the man in check, you sure are susceptible to propaganda, Ralph.

andrewboie
06-15-2008, 08:48 AM
MY ARGUMENTS ARE STRONGER DUE TO MY USE OF CAPSLOCK

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thoughtbombing
06-15-2008, 09:01 AM
We're also forced to abide by certain laws. Like we are forced not to steal and not to murder. You can choose to do those things, but you'll go to jail. Just like you could choose not to register your fingerprint, and you'd go to jail. I don't see it as such a bad thing.

Not only that, but not being able to disprove anything in that article doesn't make it true. It just means that many of the statements in it are opinions made to sound like fact. For someone who is all about keeping the man in check, you sure are susceptible to propaganda, Ralph.

Propaganda isn't necessarily false, just because it's propaganda.

traci_dub
06-15-2008, 09:45 AM
Zomg Im Goin Off The Grid Ya'll

traci_dub
06-15-2008, 09:47 AM
Propaganda isn't necessarily false, just because it's propaganda.

I know the king of an african country who will split his billion dollar fortune with you if you can send him money for a plane ticket out of his country.

REDRUM
06-16-2008, 03:50 PM
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Dr. Seuss
06-16-2008, 04:14 PM
I'm still voting for him.