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ashley
08-12-2008, 07:30 AM
The Associated Press
Published Tuesday, August 12, 2008
LAWRENCE — The popular Wakarusa Music and Camping Festival may end its run in Lawrence after five years, event promoter Brett Mosiman said.

Mosiman, who says his event has lost money the last two years, accuses the Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks of bigotry because of how it treats the event and its largely "hippie" crowd.

Mosiman said he might move his event out of state in 2009 unless Wakarusa is given terms that are equal to the Country Stampede, a music and camping festival at Tuttle Creek State Park near Manhattan.

"You can say cowboys are cool and hippies drool, but not if you're behind the state seal of Kansas," Mosiman said. "It is profiling, it is discrimination, it is like saying the black kids can't use the pool."

Amy Thornton, staff attorney for the parks department, said Mosiman has made claims of discrimination and bigotry in past contract talks. She said the department has provided reasonable explanations each time for the contract differences.

"We've heard that over and over again," Thornton said of the bigotry claim. "But, frankly, it is the management of the festival we're concerned about, not the people there."

She said in past years the Wakarusa Festival was late in paying vendors, had violated the contract's quiet zone provisions and had missed several deadlines for presenting security and traffic control plans.

In recent years, Wakarusa has paid more in rent and county law enforcement services than the Stampede, although the Stampede is a larger event. Wakarusa's attendance cap is 13,500. The Stampede is 30,000, the same number that attended the first Wakarusa Festival in 2004.

Thornton said the Wakarusa Festival has been watched closely because of some its past problems. In 2005, a festival attendee died from a drug overdose. In 2006, more than 80 people were arrested at the festival, including 12 for LSD offenses and 25 for marijuana violations.

The Stampede has had its low point as well — a stabbing death in 1997, its first year.

Still, Thornton said she didn't have a good answer as to why Moisman's company is obligated to reimburse the department nearly $30,000 in expenses for law enforcement while the Stampede isn't responsible for any similar expense.

"We feel like we are being targeted," Mosiman said. "They are making illogical and penal decisions to snuff out our event, to chase our event out of town."

Thornton said the department still was willing to work with Mosiman, but also indicated that it wasn't afraid to lose the event.

"I'm not sure giving ultimatums to us is going to work that well," Thornton said.

http://cjonline.com/stories/081208/kan_317613546.shtml

timmyruckus
08-12-2008, 08:21 AM
fucking bullshit


this really pisses me off. way to go state of kansas. someone was telling me about this the other day. Clinton Lake Park is a great spot.....hopefully this pans out and Waka can stay....

ashley
08-12-2008, 08:27 AM
yeah, it's unfortunate cuz it's a great spot, very spread out, beautiful, and nice to have the lake right there. but the cops have been like nazis the past few years and i know a lot of people who have been boycotting the festival just because of that. it's too bad that the cops treat the patrons like shit and do so much profiling. just let the people have a good time - that's what they are there for.

timmyruckus
08-12-2008, 08:31 AM
^^ yeah, i've never been hassled by the cops personally, but i've heard horror stories. i wonder if there is a significant increase in business at Hy-Vee and various stores in the area before and during Wakarusa.....

REDRUM
08-12-2008, 08:34 AM
^^ yeah, i've never been hassled by the cops personally, but i've heard horror stories. i wonder if there is a significant increase in business at Hy-Vee and various stores in the area before and during Wakarusa.....

i wondered about the hy-vee store thing too hmm...

Randy J.
08-12-2008, 08:45 AM
I really hope it doesnt move but if it does, I hope that they keep it in the KC area like somewhere on the Missouri side.

If I only owned the land.....

JFortune
08-12-2008, 09:17 AM
i think keeping it in the kc region would be essential for them maintaining their brand on a national scale b/c it is the only big festival around here, and it fits it with the rhythm with the other national festivals. i'm sure if it they didn't have the attendance cap they would be more successful

SaraBryn
08-12-2008, 09:43 AM
Well I for one was glad that security was there when I almost got shanked by crazy hippie dude with a sharpened rock...

Doesn't mean he WOULDN'T have had his ass kicked- but it just saved me from having to do it. ;)

In any case- people need to stop being dumb. This is retarded. I hope they at least find a good location that isn't hella far from us now. and what the hell is the attendance cap? It seemed like they let everyone and anyone in!

timmyruckus
08-12-2008, 09:48 AM
. and what the hell is the attendance cap? It seemed like they let everyone and anyone in!

. Wakarusa's attendance cap is 13,500. The Stampede is 30,000, the same number that attended the first Wakarusa Festival in 2004.


it really is stupid, parks and rec can gobble a cock and choke on it

nmezee
08-12-2008, 12:39 PM
damn thats crazy....im not really mad if they move it or not...i have had a great time out there but they need more hip hop damn it.....very interesting story though

EDENFLUX
08-12-2008, 02:37 PM
the one time i went, it felt like a prison.

djephex
08-12-2008, 04:48 PM
Good For Them! Lawerance + Wakarusa = Prison Like Atmosphere. Take It Somewhere Else So The Kids Can Enjoy Theirselves

JonJon
08-12-2008, 04:52 PM
i blame white lines.

JonJon
08-12-2008, 04:53 PM
or kansas

timmyruckus
08-12-2008, 04:57 PM
i bet it would be interesting to find out what exactly those people were doing to get arrested?

driving vehicles under the influence of anything?
smoking pot out in the open?
overdosing?
selling out in public?

you have to be a responsible party goer. this isn't the red light disctrict or anything. something tells me these people were probably smoking their cars out as they drove up or were doing something stupid to get arrested.

just my .02

DjNyx
08-12-2008, 10:13 PM
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame!!!

mike p
08-13-2008, 09:42 AM
.aww, come on. Its just like Beta Max... its sad, it sux but its the end of a chapter. Is adapting really that hard? and is quality really that different?

Randy J.
08-13-2008, 11:25 AM
i bet it would be interesting to find out what exactly those people were doing to get arrested?

driving vehicles under the influence of anything?
smoking pot out in the open?
overdosing?
selling out in public?

you have to be a responsible party goer. this isn't the red light disctrict or anything. something tells me these people were probably smoking their cars out as they drove up or were doing something stupid to get arrested.

just my .02


Spot on.

Just because it is a Music Festival it doesnt make things suddenly legal. I am in no way defending the actions of law enforcement but you should be responsible and keep certain things hidden away. If you are smart and responsible, you shouldnt have any issues.

natalie
08-14-2008, 10:44 AM
this is a sad sad day for me. i've gone to the festival for the last 3 years, and each time it gets better and better for me. it's all about being responsible. but people just can't seem to figure that out. it will be a shame if this year was the last. :( :(