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REDRUM
01-26-2009, 11:11 AM
The Year of the Ox got off to an inauspicious start for American workers.

A slew of American heavyweight companies, including Caterpillar, Pfizer, Sprint Nextel, Home Depot and General Motors, announced thousands of job cuts Monday. What's more, a group of business economists predicted many more job losses in the year ahead.

Caterpillar had by far the worst news of the group. The world's largest heavy equipment maker announced Monday it was slashing up to 5,000 jobs on top of several earlier actions. The latest cuts of support and management employees will be made globally by the end of March. An additional 2,500 workers already have accepted buyout offers, and ties have been severed with about 8,000 contract workers worldwide. In addition, about 4,000 full-time factory workers already have been let go.

In all, the job losses equal about 18 percent of the company's work force.

Ailing automaker General Motors Corp. also said it would slash 2,000 jobs at plants in Michigan and Ohio as the recession slams sales of its vehicles.

Sprint Nextel Corp. said it would be eliminating about 8,000 positions in the first quarter as it seeks to cut annual costs by $1.2 billion. Home Depot said it would reduce about two percent of its associates, or about 7,000 jobs. And Pfizer, fresh from agreeing to buy rival Wyeth for $68 billion, announced cost cuts that will include slashing about 8,000 jobs.

The Year of the Ox, year 4706 in the Chinese lunar calendar, is supposed to represent prosperity through perseverance and hard work. But the hope for a better year in 2009 was being dashed by the job losses and the growing concern that many more would join the ranks of the 2.6 million who became unemployed in 2008.

The latest outlook from forecasters in a survey released Monday by the National Association for Business Economics showed 39 percent predicted job reductions through attrition or “significant” layoffs over the next six months, up from 32 percent in the previous survey in October. Around 45 percent in the current survey anticipated no change in hiring plans, while roughly 17 percent thought hiring would increase.

Obama calls for swift action
President Barack Obama, referring to a litany of companies announcing job cuts in the past few days, said the nation can't afford "distractions" or "delays" when it comes to the economic stimulus plan working its way through Congress.

Obama pointed to job losses at companies including Microsoft, Intel, United Airlines and Home Depot. And he said it means more working men and women "whose families have been disrupted and whose dreams have been put on hold."

Obama told reporters Monday the government owes it to "every American" to act with a "sense of urgency" and "common purpose."

Senate committees are scheduled to take up the massive economic stimulus package Tuesday and the full House is expected to vote on its version of the $825 billion plan Wednesday. Republicans want the recovery package tilted more toward tax cuts.

Obama said these "extraordinary times" call for "swift and extraordinary action."

The president's remarks came soon after Caterpillar offered a gloomy outlook for 2009.

The Peoria, Ill., company said earnings slid as mining companies and other customers scaled back purchases amid slumping commodity prices, the credit freeze and tough market conditions. The results reflect the troubled state of the global economy as Caterpillar's products are used worldwide in a range of industries.

Caterpillar, an economic bellwether and component of the Dow Jones industrial average, earned $661 million, or $1.08 per share, during the three months ended Dec. 31. It earned $975 million, or $1.50 per share, in the same period a year earlier.

Revenue rose 6 percent to $12.92 billion.

Caterpillar disappoints
Analysts, on average, expected Caterpillar to report earnings of $1.31 per share on revenue of $12.84 billion, according to a survey by Thomson Reuters. In recent weeks, analysts have forecast continued weak earnings for Caterpillar and other U.S.-based machinery firms, pointing to the weakening construction and mining markets and an infrastructure spending plan proposed by Obama that may not boost equipment demand anytime soon.

The company forecast sales and revenues of $40 billion, or $2.50 per share in 2009, down from $51.32 billion, or $5.66, last year. It said it had taken actions to remove about 20,000 workers, including Caterpillar employees, contract and agency workers.

Caterpillar, which employs more than 112,000 people worldwide, has expanded dramatically in recent years, driven by surging demand spurred by infrastructure projects in developing countries, particularly in Asia. But that demand has waned with the weakening global economy.

In response to the worsening conditions, the company also announced plans to slash executive compensation by up to 50 percent. It also instituted a global hiring freeze.

"Without a doubt, 2009 will be a very tough," Caterpillar Chief Executive Jim Owens said in a statement.

Investors hope Obama's infrastructure spending program will bolster demand for road-building and other equipment made by Caterpillar. But analysts warn the plan may have little near-term impact on equipment demand, and that proposed figures would be insufficient to help given steep declines in the U.S. construction market.

Meanwhile, Home Depot Inc. said it's cutting 7,000 jobs and closing its smaller Expo chain as the recession continues to batter the nation's housing market.

The nation's largest home improvement retailer said the cuts will affect about 2 percent of its work force.

And Sprint Nextel Corp., the No. 3 U.S. mobile service provider, said it would eliminate up to 8,000 jobs, or about 14 percent of its workforce, under a plan to cut labor costs.

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 11:23 AM
rough...i feel bad for those families....

spherex
01-26-2009, 11:36 AM
OOOOOO!!!

also, my friend ordered pizza from pizza the hut a couple nights ago. remember how they shut down the PH call center here? they moved even that to Pakistan!

now tell me, what happened to the good old days of simply calling in your order to the local hut? did it really need to go this far?

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 11:40 AM
OOOOOO!!!

also, my friend ordered pizza from pizza the hut a couple nights ago. remember how they shut down the PH call center here? they moved even that to Pakistan!

now tell me, what happened to the good old days of simply calling in your order to the local hut? did it really need to go this far?

that shit pisses me off so GD much it's insane. yeah, why can't they just take the order at the restaraunt?

spherex
01-26-2009, 11:51 AM
that shit pisses me off so GD much it's insane. yeah, why can't they just take the order at the restaraunt?

i think these other countries just have so much money that they are buying out the jobs that we can keep here, and thats the only thing keeping these once big companies in operation.

Bucho
01-26-2009, 12:02 PM
i think these other countries just have so much money that they are buying out the jobs that we can keep here, and thats the only thing keeping these once big companies in operation.


read "The World is Flat" by Thomas Friedman, then come talk to me about your previous statement.

Bucho
01-26-2009, 12:03 PM
that shit pisses me off so GD much it's insane. yeah, why can't they just take the order at the restaraunt?


they're dumb high school kids, yo. it's the same at every pizza joint around town...all young kids slangin pizza dough. and i remember some of the cats i used to work with...when they took orders over the phone, they fucked'em up every time...everytime.

Tiny667
01-26-2009, 12:04 PM
that shit pisses me off so GD much it's insane. yeah, why can't they just take the order at the restaraunt?

Agreed, that hella sucks. I go online for ordering pizza these days.

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 12:35 PM
they're dumb high school kids, yo. it's the same at every pizza joint around town...all young kids slangin pizza dough. and i remember some of the cats i used to work with...when they took orders over the phone, they fucked'em up every time...everytime.

it's sad how the youth of america can be so retarded

i worked at Torre's Pizza when i was 15 with all my homies, always smoked out of our dome, drinking while working on friday and saturdays and still made almost every single order the way it was supposed to be.....ahhhh, that was a fun fun job for sure!

djephex
01-26-2009, 12:55 PM
outsourced jobs = worst thing ever for our economy. they need to tariff these outsourced companys into the ground, then use that money to build economic stimulus programs. that would slow the bleeding a lil bit, plus then it would wind up being cheaper to just keep the jobs in the states.

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 01:04 PM
there needs to be stiff penalties for companies who outsource jobs like this

djephex
01-26-2009, 01:22 PM
sad thing is that these countries that they are outsourcing to are seeing massive economic growth. so basicly , either we lose or they lose.

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 01:29 PM
sad thing is that these countries that they are outsourcing to are seeing massive economic growth. so basicly , either we lose or they lose.

yup, it sucks

but i'd MUCH rather see them lose than us....

spherex
01-26-2009, 01:35 PM
yup, it sucks

but i'd MUCH rather see them lose than us....

for real....seems like we've been on the losing end

Bucho
01-26-2009, 01:42 PM
read "The World is Flat" by Thomas Friedman.


that's pretty much all i have to say to every response in this entire thread.

spherex
01-26-2009, 01:47 PM
that's pretty much all i have to say to every response in this entire thread.

Flatlanders was better

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 02:00 PM
that's pretty much all i have to say to every response in this entire thread.

you got the book mang? i wanna check it out

The Professor
01-26-2009, 04:46 PM
i worked at Torre's Pizza when i was 15 with all my homies, always smoked out of our dome, drinking while working on friday and saturdays and still made almost every single order the way it was supposed to be.....ahhhh, that was a fun fun job for sure!

egads, when you were 15, huh? that would be what, 7 years ago or so? how old are you? just wondering if it was the years of my Torre's pizza obsession 01-02...

The Professor
01-26-2009, 04:48 PM
so the total for Monday's layoffs reached 71,400....


71,400 !!!!! in one freaking day!!!!


http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/26/news/economy/job_cuts/index.htm

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 04:49 PM
egads, when you were 15, huh? that would be what, 7 years ago or so? how old are you? just wondering if it was the years of my Torre's pizza obsession 01-02...

mmmm, torre's pizza, i worked at the one in Lenexa, off Pflumm and College


that would've been 11 years ago, i'm 26

The Professor
01-26-2009, 04:53 PM
mmmm, torre's pizza, i worked at the one in Lenexa, off Pflumm and College


that would've been 11 years ago, i'm 26

ok... that clears the air a bit in 2 ways, I went to Westport's and i was still in college then...

you don't look 26, so good for you...

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 04:58 PM
you don't look 26, so good for you...

:lol:

that and the fact that i act like i'm 19 probably doesn't help my cause

sir.real
01-26-2009, 05:02 PM
:lol:

that and the fact that i act like i'm 19 probably doesn't help my cause

probably a bit generous on that one.... ;)

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 05:03 PM
probably a bit generous on that one.... ;)

RINGING & ZINGIN!! hahaha

Bucho
01-26-2009, 05:16 PM
you got the book mang? i wanna check it out

of course i've got the book *L*

timmyruckus
01-26-2009, 05:17 PM
of course i've got the book *L*

can i borrow it?

Kourtney
01-26-2009, 05:18 PM
OOOOOO!!!

also, my friend ordered pizza from pizza the hut a couple nights ago. remember how they shut down the PH call center here? they moved even that to Pakistan!

now tell me, what happened to the good old days of simply calling in your order to the local hut? did it really need to go this far?

Order pizza online. thats how I do it :-D

Kourtney
01-26-2009, 05:19 PM
but yeah.....i was very sad when I read the news today. I know a lot of people in Peoria/Pekin area where the Cat plant is. That is what keeps the town alive.

Bucho
01-26-2009, 05:22 PM
can i borrow it?

if you're nice. but you have to come pick it up dressed up in a wrapping paper dress and ornament earrings.

Tiny667
01-26-2009, 09:55 PM
read "The World is Flat" by Thomas Friedman.

Will do.

timmyruckus
01-27-2009, 08:32 AM
if you're nice. but you have to come pick it up dressed up in a wrapping paper dress and ornament earrings.

shoooooooooot, you know i have that costume ready at all times